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Threadia did not want then to turn kukaan own from this... I will stick ite to its beginnings, tulis, to the information of the big nation, so that when the price would show the meeting quality also once. And that there other displays also would get column room 1920x1200 threadissa :)

It is a question of this display: http://www.pixmania.com/fi/fi/628192/art/pixmania/tft-naytto-24-wide-mb24w. HTML

That the same thing as this would be guessed: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MO 026 OK&tool=3.

It seems that the same display is in question.

The black sells:
"tossa pictures overclockersin (in other words from the same) from display http://www.hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1031736938&postcount=9199
overclockers chain of the forumi from display: http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=17806175
user criticism: http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10575088&postcount=582
add pictures and other: http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10600078&postcount=1177

laitetaas now this also, in other words somebody had sent the aspaan of the dgm of the question with that forum here, the answer had come, Hantonilta http://www.hanton-tw.com/ vois, to be, even if, the original manufacturer of the display on the pages is not found tota, however, a model.

a device "brändättynä" is found at least with names iolair, iisonic, digimate (dgm), ocUK, pixmania
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Manual: http://www.iolair.fr/catalogue/MB24W-manual.pdf

Sepksit of Iolair: http://www.iolair.fr/catalogue/MB24W.pdf

Fastening: SPROUT 75/75 (if a display comes into the second foot, the covers must be taken into pieces so that the old stub will be obtained away: http://s234.photobucket.com/albums/ee298/the-lbt/?=a actio view&current=1 stubby-stand.jpg ) is not pixmanian apparently on this display tällästä ratkasua. In other words it is not opened to peel tartte. vilkasu taaske tells everything :)

The text (it was a sticker) at least in the cardboard box is HDCP so the display also probably contains support to it. Somebody could secure?

Own experiences: (voe y*ttu I kirjottaa kauheen and sit this, a story, s**tana sulkeutus, so shortened)

Disadvantages:
-The backlight cannot be adjusted dim enough. There is no black, lähellekkään blackens.
- 1:1 Pixel mappingia does not support
-Finish (the plastic parts look like halva :)
-Original base (other adjustments than an inclination and poor oloinen not)
-Too clear ledi (jooh the spot nussintaa) :
- The pixmaniasta of the state country (or number can order it from there, however, OCuk:ltakin has not ordered anybody yet) hurries


Plusses:
-Price
-Colours (except black)
-Looking corners
-Input lagi extremely small
-...

sum summarum:

Jep jep, in other words stoori partly new. Straightforward 300e tälläsestä from the display will not be, in my opinion, too much if one knows what it gets. In other words that repetition of the black is quite weak (if somebody would make modin a pretty?) rightly:. If I blacken, an excellent display has prepared, of course, so otherwise. The flick into use would not get, of course, because of that black. Into my own use however thing worth its price.

The part may be put to the thorn of the camera of the shit (ixus 55 an automatic machine with the adjustments) but as the time haaleeta is seen, is:

A few miscellaneous pictures(720p):


More (1080p):


I do not know, those short pieces, why 1080p looks so tepid :/ N.B. those HD is after packing a stuff quite violently. In other words warezii :P
Here a few of shotti hl2 and lost coasti. 1920X1200 all high, number AA



Better camera olis yes boy :/

Now Iolair was opened then. Pictures opening in order:

1. Patient leikkuupyöydällä. Foot loose (4 screws). From bottom corners 2 screws open.
2. Translation around and irroitus of plastic edges. With the chisel head one twists so from the right sections, it comes loose quite easily.
3. Now a panel can indeed be lifted aside. Remember irroittaa the flat cable what leaves for the display from the card, a controller. The inverter stays to the right and feedings to the backlight leave from it. Here the inverter and the power source have been stuffed in the same circuit board. There is no light sensor here as pixmania promises. Empty full that hole over the display.
4. This stage is a little more difficult. Those feedings which go to the kylmäkatodi do not get loose before the virransyöttökortti has been irroittaa from the bottom of the case. The panel, however, itself cannot be lowered from that corner of 90 degrees right because those cables are liin, short. In other words a card must be held on on the second hand to the paneli and with other must be screwed loose.
5. Now one indeed will get at the panel then itself. A card off bottom of the panel (obviously singaalin is connected to the control somehow...). The Jesus tape is known apparently also in Chinese :) At this stage the only kämmi came which I confess. Those being up lattakaapelita the protected foil tape got to the tear :.)
6. It seems that there is no proper picture since this stage. Now a metal frame is irroittaa from around the panel. Päältä open 2 screws the rest of frame will and rise when one lifts edges with a chisel. After tft itself a panel can raise this away (kannta not without chick:). It is a a few millimetres thick glass and in the head the controller is again an electronics...
7. Now one frame (the figure shows already a tummennuskalvo in the space, therefore, so dark) will be again irroittaa. This time plastic blackens. One will leave extremely easily. Underneath valkosta is muddy 3 transparencies and a thin pleksi. Under Pleksi again kylmäkatodi themselves. In it that breaking indeed was. At the first time the time went quite long when one did not know immediately what next must be done. When, the otin from between too dark that transparency away for the time 45min (open and shut) went at another time.

1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7.


Then I still served as a warehouse, ettimässä bilteman, a tummennuskalvo. 10-20% Pierces light which guessing was too little but something should be now tried when the display was open... In the following picture series transparency of a cutting (the first transparency was spoilt when by accident I cut it over the ink spot, a copying machine:). On there indeed are already pictures where the dark transparency is in the space. I did not keretä on the tummakalvo to catch like a few pictures of the display tolla. But dark and lifting of the clarity > 100 49% - % did not really have effect quite too, anything...



Experiment of the second transparency 1.2

Noniin now it was moved to a lighter transparency then when I reminisced about that sellastakin had to be a roll somewhere. Here the disadvantage was it, such as for example also in contact plastic that in transparency liimapinan on that kind of a paper. In that tummennuskalvo one had had viritellä, the transparent transparency so not. The available utensils did not become another to the mind like A3 in it, lamination plastic of the size. Also those were too small and 2kpl should be made and yes, an end of the result noticed it (the seam stayed between those 2 transparencies... :). In other words the transparency again left well out of the display, pikaseen. However, the one to be observed was that kuvatummeni from own mind conveniently. In other words a solution of the same style tollasta liimapintasta without the transparency would be an extremely good alternative.

Pictures:



Here pictures of the inverter if a wise one would know to where it could put the trimmer in-between so that a backlight could be quite rightly adjusted...






Project exchange of the foot:




BACKLIGHT 1.3 by ps86


http://keskustelu.plaza.fi/muropaketti/bbs/t514699,1100#m1701867896

Doddii and now ps86 has been at last found rautarakaisu in the action to too clear that backlight.



Discount codes pixmaniasta: Pixfi071201 and Joulua7 (over 300e from the purchase 7e away)

As payment alternatives; VISA, Mastercard, Solo, PayPal and account transfer. With the account transfer the transfer of money takes moderately long. In an own section 6 days (3 banking days) went.

Delivery costs pixmaniassa is 14 9e kustilla will promise within 3-5 days with ordinary. ON UPS 34,9 € will and promise within 1-2 days.


Does the order hold? http://keskustelu.plaza.fi/muropaketti/bbs/t514699,120#m1701539994 2vk will go by throwing if, chosen an account transfer and the slowest delivery. See that link so, it may take a long time, an indication.


Pistäkääs a display you already probably get praises and submissions here. Willingly with pictures. Somebody also could throw the Input lagista, shotit.

Good stated placings:

http://www.quickgamma.de/indexen.html (to the adjustment of the gamma)
http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/ (the testing of placings a page)
http://www.easyrgb.com/calibrate.php?k0=index.HTML (a testing a page)

Vellu-83: (V.3 a panel)
Brightness 49 %
contrast 49 %
RED 62 %
GREEN 57%
BLUE 62%

Vellu-83 the second adjustments (edited gamma also):

gamma: (it seems that kys affects this. a display controller?) these adjusted quickgammalla
r:1,99
g:2,08
b:2,31

display:
Brightness 52 %
Contrast 39 %
Blue 63%
Green 61%
Red 63 %

Miika: (y.3 a panel)
Brightness 35 %
Contrast 50 %
RED 65 %
GREEN 60%
BLUE 65%


Kolisp: (y.3 a panel)
Brightness 49 %
Contrast 40 %
Red 56 %
Green 54%
Blue 57%

gammas: (adjusted nvidian control from the paneli)
Red 36 %
Green 40%
Blue 47%



formaldehyde: (y.0 a panel)
Brightness: 49%
Contrast: 49%
Red: 62%
Green: 58%
Blue: 67%

e: typoja is its sights quite a lot there between the text. We shall take peas from them if one likes...

I also stuck a Tuommoinen one earlier to the order since the evening when while waiting evidence.

Noh, the first praise is stuck without pictures. :) In other words itellä tommonen display, here I do not regret a purchase in front of the face certainly. Cf. to a former Samsung SyncMaster 913N display, the colour repetition and clarity are a separate country and size also, it is, of course, more than 5 inches. ;) I have not found dead/got stuck/otherwise faulty pixels even with a longer study even without ainu. Looking corners former Samppa is better straightforwardly, this bears, to look from vaikka_mikä direction. :) Häntimistä has not been any even in fast games (for example painkiller). HDCP sticker and text certainly others are found, a box of a kyljes, let not us test validity on which, the oo devices. The parcel came through the ordinary post in 5 weekdays quite whole.
Certainly the finish of plastic parts (in the lower part of the display plastic not fastened well, however, I did not notice before some of it in an earlier chain mentioned) brought as the only disadvantage. The repetition of the black could also be a little better others I will not go to criticise.. Little when it looks to adjust so quite willingly. :)


Edit:

Let us still mention, DVI-DVI, that the cable should be picked up at the electronic commerce (9,90 €) when in the parcel it did not come strangely enough, along. In parcel vga-vga and hdmi-dvi cable for transfer of the picture. I do not have the strength to list other splinters.

Oltorno:
Quite the specifications have effect on their pages permission, pixmania: (however come often after stating that they do not keep at all to their place)

Colour: 16,7 million colours
Dot size: 0,270 x 0,270 mm
Resolution: 1920 X 1200 (WXGA+)
Clarity: 300 cd/m²
Contrast: 1000:1
Display corner: Scales/Pysty 180 / 180
Response time: 6 ms
Video/Type inlets: DVI-D, VGA (Sub D 15-pin)
Vaakapyyhkäisytaajuus: 50/60 Hz
Audio loudspeaker: 2 X 1 W
Consumption max:. 54 W
Measures: 570 x 250 x 463 mm
Weight: 6Kg

Fastening: SPROUT 75/75

Number what noisa will in the specifications not be true then?

Oltorno, korjaappa otherwise spelling mistake of the heading, to read Iolair pitäis..

kautium:
Number what noisa will in the specifications not be true then?

There has been Pixmanialla, once to distort few specifications as a way. Some of them have ordered the evidence with the DVI connection and in the display, the mere VGA connection has been indeed after all.. Here Iolairissa however vaikuttais those specifications of its firm place at least mostly (have not invented what would keep nothing).

kautium:

Oltorno:
Quite the specifications have effect on their pages permission, pixmania: (however come often after stating that they do not keep at all to their place)

Colour: 16,7 million colours
Dot size: 0,270 x 0,270 mm
Resolution: 1920 X 1200 (WXGA+)
Clarity: 300 cd/m²
Contrast: 1000:1
Display corner: Scales/Pysty 180 / 180
Response time: 6 ms
Video/Type inlets: DVI-D, VGA (Sub D 15-pin)
Vaakapyyhkäisytaajuus: 50/60 Hz
Audio loudspeaker: 2 X 1 W
Consumption max:. 54 W
Measures: 570 x 250 x 463 mm
Weight: 6Kg

Fastening: SPROUT 75/75

Number what noisa will in the specifications not be true then?

I meant those specifications in the first place in place, pixmanian. There is a DVI can read and the display will come there likewise without, DVI, those corners, sun, others... What does it seem that the friends there throw the lot sometimes, kirjotellaan, to the specifications...

e: slow :)revised the heading

Can one become clear anywhere what panel in those now then will be? Manufacturer, S-PVA, PVA, MVA, P-MVA or what are there? Oiskohan in those possibly a maintenance menu etc.. Or, if somebody is a guru so that it separates the VA panel types on the basis of the mere picture...

Is a difference in the scalability? It seems that on something it was the Samsung 215TW with which to compare. Is resolla a difference in the picture quality smaller same? Is resoja found smaller ones of the menus when a some kind of sharpening function is used? At least Viewsonicissani is such own and a little, it improves/to worsen the picture.

What about what kind of base is from the point of view of the sturdiness? Already it was indeed mentioned in the second threadissa one that the adjustment of the corner seems poor but että the display does sit assertively otherwise on the table?

There has also been talk about the colour repetition drawn directly from the parcel. How much colours have to adjust that one can get them to their sections? How do the regular settings have the tones amiss?

LaXu:how much colours have to adjust that one can get them to their sections? How do the regular settings have the tones amiss?

So, is already something and found, it would be good to begin hyväksihavaita adjustments with one of the rivers?

Mä I have been always quite lazy to adjust the colours of the monitor but littujen, particularly with these there seems to be it quite important if one means to get a good picture.

It and was quite satisfied as second thredissä your that kind of a state but there was a dark head so they say appearing there, the friend goes fast to the block. So he is getting the BR station, results from that HDCP will not come at some stage.

kautium:

LaXu:how much colours have to adjust that one can get them to their sections? How do the regular settings have the tones amiss?

So, is already something and found, it would be good to begin hyväksihavaita adjustments with one of the rivers?

Mä I have been always quite lazy to adjust the colours of the monitor but littujen, particularly with these there seems to be it quite important if one means to get a good picture.

Mä I made adjustments recently quite also long just and eventually ended up in this kind of a solution and am very satisfied. Earlier the problem of the flashing pixels of the strange green even mentioned by me went to the discipline and now the rocks also of its cityscape are well distinguished. However, I have prescribed a little gamma settings of the display controller with Adobe RGB so I do not know how it affects a matter...

But however, the idea is the fact that the clarity (brightness) is not worth changing hardly in a anything direction because, if a clarity lowers, the darkest tones will begin to disappear immediately and if a backlight adds so, the clarity will become clear. Furthermore, it is good to increase the colour fullness because, suht, the clear backlight dilutes shades.

Brightness 49 %
contrast 49 %
RED 62 %
GREEN 57%
BLUE 62%

Then I read the touching stories in the rice crispy, all Iolairia and ordered P from this it to sit :

zhaft:then I read the touching stories in the rice crispy, all Iolairia and ordered P from this it to sit :

This way it is the gold itself also which has gone. Mä I heard Iolairista ekan once last night and today ordered it immediately in the morning.

Just recently Pixmanian to the order follow-up was a decrease (but a follow-up number not) which had appeared, in other words can be that it will be already tomorrow or on Friday on the way. With this going one will be able during the Christmas holidays to look at the picture of the new display. Hopefully one does not need to disappoint...

"Mullakin has been the ordering of that already very near but however, I would want that there tommoset would be act" properties, it operates or not in order. The qualitative properties do not need to be necessarily perfect there, a price.

-"The Input lag is one, the act" property operates or not and it has already been found to be non-existent.
-Then the other will be that adjustment of the backlight which unfortunately does not operate as it one would belong.
-HDCP does not mean yet at least to myself but oishan it a plus.
-1:1 Pixel mapping would be a big plus but is not found in this display.
-Then there would be a matter, refresh rate brings. If that informed 60Hz is maximum rightly, then it will be very little but with it could live, of course. For a perfect video repetition 24Hz, 48Hz or 72Hz would need, however. 50Hz would be a plus.

The witch a little indeed looked at Vellu-83 from the menu of Windows but there is always 60 Hz there in order to understand the minimum. The more special frequencies should be found one of the advanced settings of the display controller. Pystyiskö a noheva to test those frequencies mentioned by me and maximum frequency? Does that display show in its menus in an something own one that what resolution and what frequency it heads out? I thank for answers beforehand.

EDIT: If the PowerStrip programme is familiar, then it could be used to test those frequencies helpoiten.

kautium:number what noisa will in the specifications not be true then?

At least that resolution... The abbreviation of the display standard of 1920x1200 is WUXGA, WXGA not.+ (so which is 1440x900)

So HDCP is that text in the packing quite pressed, that no sticker was as far as I remember. Annoyance so that I am not able to try it only, those HD stations have not been acquired yet.

I am not able testailla 1:1 pixel mappingiakaan. Where could one get the adapter with which one could get for example PS2 from or shut to the tohon VGA connector of an other game console/the device?

LaXu:what about what kind of base is from the point of view of the sturdiness? Already it was indeed mentioned in the second threadissa one that the adjustment of the corner seems poor but että the display does sit assertively otherwise on the table?

There has also been talk about the colour repetition drawn directly from the parcel. How much colours have to adjust that one can get them to their sections? How do the regular settings have the tones amiss?

The base is quite horrible, when a table swings, the display will remain a little so swaying time also a longer period of time.

Yes, also the colour repetition was directly from the parcel quite OK but not in place totally. Those a couple of messages the give placings were quite good - then, Vellun with them does not go to the block, even the quite darkest tones.

I noticed otherwise that the adjustment of the contrast affects the colours also quite funnily but with one another not with some values it is green/to have a shade of red quite distinctly.

formaldehyde:the base is quite horrible, when a table swings, the display will remain a little so swaying time also a longer period of time.

Is such that pajottaa does not feel it independently more robust a structure between a base and a monitor?

The price also is such so in its sections it began himottaa.

kautium:
This way it is the gold itself also which has gone. Mä I heard Iolairista ekan once last night and today ordered it immediately in the morning.

This is off-topiccia little but would some of the ones which had ordered know, Pixmaniasta, to say that how the tilauksenseurantaprosessi after all proceeds and which number can be used to follow the progress of the parcel in and from what page?

Mulla is Iolairin in the order at the moment, the information of this kind -- >
- - - - -
TRANSMISSION
Sold and sent products a seller of which there is: Pixmania

Pixmania the shopkeeper has totally handled the order
You can follow your order henceforth by clicking the number below, a progress:
Date of delivery : //
- - - - -

The number of the decrease is the only number sequence which on the page is found and right I do not believe that it can be used to follow an order from any service.

I guess that by that date of delivery that has been mentioned in the transmission information an additional information will come at some stage but että the follow-up number also will come to it?

I chose ordinary post as a toimitustapa but is it not in any case the UPS which delivers the parcel to Finland?

How would this display be suitable for a drawing/image processing/3D mallinnusohjelma-käyttö for an architect student? The displays that have been meant for Ammattilaiskäyttö would be, of course, surely better but with the student budget 2000e Eizoja is not ostella quite :)

Date of delivery : // instead of that has to be hetkenpäästä, a code

kautium:

kautium:
This way it is the gold itself also which has gone. Mä I heard Iolairista ekan once last night and today ordered it immediately in the morning.

This is off-topiccia little but would some of the ones which had ordered know, Pixmaniasta, to say that how the tilauksenseurantaprosessi after all proceeds and which number can be used to follow the progress of the parcel in and from what page?

Mulla is Iolairin in the order at the moment, the information of this kind -- >
- - - - -
TRANSMISSION
Sold and sent products a seller of which there is: Pixmania

Pixmania the shopkeeper has totally handled the order
You can follow your order henceforth by clicking the number below, a progress:
Date of delivery : //
- - - - -

The number of the decrease is the only number sequence which on the page is found and right I do not believe that it can be used to follow an order from any service.

I guess that by that date of delivery that has been mentioned in the transmission information an additional information will come at some stage but että the follow-up number also will come to it?

I chose ordinary post as a toimitustapa but is it not in any case the UPS which delivers the parcel to Finland?

It can be that ups to Finnish brings its parcel but that after that that parcel the post of the Finnish is left with and then has to search for from there from the post office.

King jam how this display would be suitable for a drawing/image processing/3D mallinnusohjelma-käyttö for an architect student ^2:? The displays that have been meant for Ammattilaiskäyttö would be, of course, surely better but with the student budget 2000e Eizoja is not ostella quite :)

Mielestä quite well. At least much better than any other 24" LCD of under 500 euros if that size is important. The matter is however so that the VA panel will be better in the jokatapaus to image processing and such like like the TN panel and you would have to pay 24" PVA or MVA double if you wanted to have an other panel.

Pertti_Pasanen_Spede:
It can be that ups to Finnish brings its parcel but that after that that parcel the post of the Finnish is left with and then has to search for from there from the post office.

No, yes, it would be the transport company PNL (Pan Nordic Logistic) which freighted the evidence all the way to Finland by trailer lorry. UPS is more expensive and quicker air cargo, obviously?

UPS is air cargo juu. What season does see quite nicely from their order follow-up it has come. From Paris to Cologne then to Malmö, and to Helsinki of Vantaa.

Kaer

It seems that I put htpc to the ice of the getting and it seems that I buy this :) The present 21" CRT is shining in the games but has vituttaa with its mistiness already for a few years in the työpöytäkäyttö.

EDIT: The order left :D keeps it to itself, now to get something for Christmas, it is hoped that it is good.